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		<title>Comment on Hope, Presidents, and Coins by NE Admin</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/11/23/hope-presidents-and-coins/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>NE Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well-deserved LOL</description>
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		<title>Comment on Hope, Presidents, and Coins by Julien Frisch</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/11/23/hope-presidents-and-coins/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Julien Frisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And below their heads they will write: In remembrance of the European Union...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And below their heads they will write: In remembrance of the European Union&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by Sascha Leib</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Sascha Leib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new version 6 appears to combine the advantages of the others. However, I am not too sure if the general layout really is an improvement over the current one (the serif typeface certainly is an improvement, though).

However, I would use the opportunity to start with some typographic improvements as well: To improve legibility, I would either introduce paragraph spacing, or indent all paragraphs that do not follow a space (not after headlines, images, new columns, new spaces, etc.).

Second, the articles are set very inconsistently, often with different fonts, and different leading which gives the pages a very unruly and chaotic appearance.

Maybe at this opportunity you could also remind the layouter to be more consistent in using “typographical” quotation marks (and not the &quot;typewriter&quot; marks), apostrophes (same), dashes (en or em, just use them right), ellipsis (either three periods with no-break spaces between … or [better] the ellipsis symbol), etc.

Once that is accomplished, you should look at a number of other issues: The drop caps are often set amateurishly, with too much space and never followed by capitalised (or small caps) words; superscripts are usually to big and bleed into previous lines; all-caps words (including abbreviations) should be printed at a reduced font size (or use small caps directly) … I could just go on like this.

And if that were a newspaper that I don&#039;t like to spend time with, I wouldn&#039;t even care. But it is just unfair to the authors of these articles that the DTP is so lousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new version 6 appears to combine the advantages of the others. However, I am not too sure if the general layout really is an improvement over the current one (the serif typeface certainly is an improvement, though).</p>
<p>However, I would use the opportunity to start with some typographic improvements as well: To improve legibility, I would either introduce paragraph spacing, or indent all paragraphs that do not follow a space (not after headlines, images, new columns, new spaces, etc.).</p>
<p>Second, the articles are set very inconsistently, often with different fonts, and different leading which gives the pages a very unruly and chaotic appearance.</p>
<p>Maybe at this opportunity you could also remind the layouter to be more consistent in using “typographical” quotation marks (and not the &#8220;typewriter&#8221; marks), apostrophes (same), dashes (en or em, just use them right), ellipsis (either three periods with no-break spaces between … or [better] the ellipsis symbol), etc.</p>
<p>Once that is accomplished, you should look at a number of other issues: The drop caps are often set amateurishly, with too much space and never followed by capitalised (or small caps) words; superscripts are usually to big and bleed into previous lines; all-caps words (including abbreviations) should be printed at a reduced font size (or use small caps directly) … I could just go on like this.</p>
<p>And if that were a newspaper that I don&#8217;t like to spend time with, I wouldn&#8217;t even care. But it is just unfair to the authors of these articles that the DTP is so lousy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by Brusselsblogger</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Brusselsblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like new Version 6 - except the grey background on the left hand side.

It&#039;s a minor point but I would leave it without a background and only put a background on a &quot;focus&quot; table-of-contents if there is one. See left bar of &quot;Les Echos&quot; in France for inspiration (but they don&#039;t use colored background every day)

I am for big web address of course :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like new Version 6 &#8211; except the grey background on the left hand side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a minor point but I would leave it without a background and only put a background on a &#8220;focus&#8221; table-of-contents if there is one. See left bar of &#8220;Les Echos&#8221; in France for inspiration (but they don&#8217;t use colored background every day)</p>
<p>I am for big web address of course <img src='http://neurope.eu/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by Lissandra</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most esthetic is version 4 (although it would have been even better with a copenhagen focus on top). 

The most pratical version is number 6 with multiple menus displaying the paper&#039;s content and half an article to wet the reader&#039;s appetite.  Esthetically speaking, I would have the line seperating the vertical table of contents from the article removed.  The table itself needs a little fine tuning to make it easy on the eye.  

The best compromise among esthetics, content, and practicality, is verion 2.  I agree that the dot is dispensable and might be more appropriately used to color code sections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most esthetic is version 4 (although it would have been even better with a copenhagen focus on top). </p>
<p>The most pratical version is number 6 with multiple menus displaying the paper&#8217;s content and half an article to wet the reader&#8217;s appetite.  Esthetically speaking, I would have the line seperating the vertical table of contents from the article removed.  The table itself needs a little fine tuning to make it easy on the eye.  </p>
<p>The best compromise among esthetics, content, and practicality, is verion 2.  I agree that the dot is dispensable and might be more appropriately used to color code sections.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by Kristoffer</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful. Dont put too many pictures and informations on the frontpage. example 4 and 5 are most easy and steady to look at. The frontpage need to be informative and attractive, and not confusing and demanding...

Im sure you will find a nice solution...

Best,

Kristioffer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful. Dont put too many pictures and informations on the frontpage. example 4 and 5 are most easy and steady to look at. The frontpage need to be informative and attractive, and not confusing and demanding&#8230;</p>
<p>Im sure you will find a nice solution&#8230;</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Kristioffer</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by jaccoud</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>jaccoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* it depends on your objective
* all of these options are classical; nothing modern
* if the objective is to be classical, play the game thoroughly and retrieve the spirit of the Newspaper during the middle of the past century, i.e. forget the blue dot, the &quot;Nike&quot; signal and all elements that make us think that it come from a design that want to be like... but is not. Forget all element that disturb the eyes.
* and then put all the power on the choice of the photos and how they are cropped.
* It&#039;s the reson why I think that the right direction is the option 6.
Bon courage !
Françoise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* it depends on your objective<br />
* all of these options are classical; nothing modern<br />
* if the objective is to be classical, play the game thoroughly and retrieve the spirit of the Newspaper during the middle of the past century, i.e. forget the blue dot, the &#8220;Nike&#8221; signal and all elements that make us think that it come from a design that want to be like&#8230; but is not. Forget all element that disturb the eyes.<br />
* and then put all the power on the choice of the photos and how they are cropped.<br />
* It&#8217;s the reson why I think that the right direction is the option 6.<br />
Bon courage !<br />
Françoise</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by sandra</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Αν δοκίμαζες το 6 με μια μικρή μετατροπή. Επειδή η φωτο χάνει λίγο τη δύναμή της, αν την τράβαγες μέχρι δεξιά και έκανες ένθεση το κείμενο μέσα στην φωτό. Ισως εκεί που είναι το κείμενο, η φωτό να είναι washout (υδατογράφημα) ή να είναι λιγότερο το κείμενο με άσπρα γράμματα.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Αν δοκίμαζες το 6 με μια μικρή μετατροπή. Επειδή η φωτο χάνει λίγο τη δύναμή της, αν την τράβαγες μέχρι δεξιά και έκανες ένθεση το κείμενο μέσα στην φωτό. Ισως εκεί που είναι το κείμενο, η φωτό να είναι washout (υδατογράφημα) ή να είναι λιγότερο το κείμενο με άσπρα γράμματα.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by admin</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks George,

It&#039;s likely that the &quot;focus&quot; bar will indeed be used in cases where we have a special report. The difference in the logo between 5 and 6 is only in the prominence of the website address - and that is unintentional. We will take into account that it could be bigger for better effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks George,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s likely that the &#8220;focus&#8221; bar will indeed be used in cases where we have a special report. The difference in the logo between 5 and 6 is only in the prominence of the website address &#8211; and that is unintentional. We will take into account that it could be bigger for better effect.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vote for New Europe&#8217;s front page! (NEW ADDITION) by George Lazaridis</title>
		<link>http://neurope.eu/blogs/blog/2009/09/19/vote-for-new-europes-front-page/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>George Lazaridis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would go for the &quot;focus&quot; bar and Logo from version 5 in combo with the rest of version 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would go for the &#8220;focus&#8221; bar and Logo from version 5 in combo with the rest of version 6.</p>
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